Subject	Well stated Todd. Yesterday it was mentioned by
Posted by	AshsZ (FABio) on March 13, 2003 at 8:54 AM
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In Reply To	Continuum of thread from yesterday. RE: tuning & hp #'s posted by Todd@Z1 Motorsports on March 13, 2003 at 08:28 AM
Message	a member that it "making him sick to see all us Z guys fighting each other" or something along those lines. I would have to agree with that. I hope that information is presented in whole as we go along this course as ultimately in the end it will benefit the users. As for the developments in engine tuning, I also would like to see more conclusive and complete data. Posts making claims with incomplete data are a thing of the past. The primary 4 dataplots should be HP/TQ/AF/psi. Those four datapoints are the base requirement. Without all of them, no one can make ANY conclusion on the information that was provided. Unfortuantely all of this comes about 8 years too late for the Z. Where the hell was all this cool stuff back then?! =) We should be happy it is just around the corner. [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast?
Follow Ups	Continuum of thread from yesterday. RE: tuning & hp #'s - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 08:28:45 03/13/03 Thanks Todd! Nice level headed post (n/m) - stumbleshoe 08:48:20 03/13/03 I agree completely but one thing people need to realize---> - Kyle(Houston) 08:50:42 03/13/03 Hmmm. Well, people are smarter than you are giving them - AshsZ (FABio) 09:00:46 03/13/03 Remember, if you make something idiotproof... - TTony 09:04:42 03/13/03 LOL, 2nded (n/m) - stumbleshoe 09:21:56 03/13/03 =) So true. - AshsZ (FABio) 09:38:16 03/13/03 Idiot proof and full control are oxymorons. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:09:09 03/13/03 According to the Devil's EDP Dictionary (old book) - Arturo C. 12:39:57 03/13/03 I think you are giving people too much credit....... (n/m) - spotz 12:55:58 03/13/03 I think the truth lies in between. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 13:34:04 03/13/03 If users can tune with AFC, then ecu is not that much - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:21:41 03/13/03 Exactly. =) When tuning, the first thing to do is - AshsZ (FABio) 14:41:22 03/13/03 I'll make a believer out of you yet. :) Just give me - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 11:50:30 03/13/03 believe what???----> - Kyle(Houston) 12:26:13 03/13/03 Please look at the post above mine. (n/m) - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 12:58:28 03/13/03 What I meant to say was that the PFC will have - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 12:55:50 03/13/03 I have already tuned Power FC's on RX-7s so I know ---> - Kyle(Houston) 12:58:00 03/13/03 Coolio! (n/m) - Spongerider (Now Power FC) 13:30:13 03/13/03 Well stated Todd. Yesterday it was mentioned by - AshsZ (FABio) 08:54:49 03/13/03 You forgot one, ignition timing as a fifth plot (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:57:00 03/13/03 The entire fuel map and timing map would be ideal. - AshsZ (FABio) 12:12:44 03/13/03 The supra AEM guys share maps with each other like you descr (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:18:39 03/13/03 Interesting. =) It only seems logical at that - AshsZ (FABio) 12:29:15 03/13/03 "EPROM chips just dont cut it at this level"----> - Kyle(Houston) 12:35:26 03/13/03 Re: "EPROM chips just dont cut it at this level"----> - AshsZ (FABio) 12:44:11 03/13/03 Right but answer the question---> - Kyle(Houston) 12:51:05 03/13/03 Make note of the times of these messages and check ur mail! - AshsZ (FABio) 13:01:11 03/13/03 You gonna answer that email? (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 15:55:56 03/13/03 I would think that the number of people who could >>> - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 13:24:59 03/13/03 Check your mail. =) (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 12:50:52 03/13/03 The ECU is the brains the Hardparts are the muscle :) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:44:21 03/13/03 Perfect analogy. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 12:45:43 03/13/03 Wish we had these tools 5 or 6 years ago. JWT has - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:06:32 03/13/03 LINK has been available for over 4 years now and we have---> - Kyle(Houston) 12:21:03 03/13/03 is that stuff posted? SEARCH no help. (n/m) - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 13:19:33 03/13/03 Link is an australian EMS, http://www.link-electro.co.nz/ (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 13:31:11 03/13/03 thanks. "link" got quite a few responses (n/m) - Todd@Z1 Motorsports 13:32:54 03/13/03 Woops, not Australia, New Zealand. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 13:51:37 03/13/03 The JWT concept of tuning is genious market ploy - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:59:49 03/13/03 Well said, I totally agree. (n/m) - fdaa 12:55:45 03/13/03
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